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For students curious about the many paths an arts degree can open, Joe Chantry \u201914, a Dance and Peace &\u00a0<\/span>Conflict<\/span>\u00a0Studies\u00a0alumnus,\u00a0offers one inspiring example.\u00a0Today,\u00a0as Vice President of Entertainment and Enrichment at Holland America Line and Seabourn,\u00a0he oversees\u00a0casting, production, and guest experience across a fleet of 17 cruise ships.\u00a0He\u00a0shared\u00a0how Chapman shaped his path from performing artist to executive.<\/span>\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

This interview has been edited and condensed.<\/span><\/i>\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

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You studied Dance and Peace & Conflict Studies at Chapman.\u00a0What drew you to that combination, and how has it shaped how you lead creative teams today?<\/span><\/b>\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

I chose Chapman originally for the strength of its dance program. I grew up as a competitive dancer, and I wanted to perform professionally. At the time I was more interested in commercial dance\u2014film and television\u2014so I chose to head to the West Coast. Chapman offered me an academic and\u00a0a talent\u00a0scholarship,\u00a0and it\u00a0ended up being a\u00a0great fit.<\/span>\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

During my\u00a0freshman\u00a0year, I realized the school\u2019s mission and curriculum\u00a0were focused on building global citizens. That interdisciplinary environment is how I discovered Peace Studies, which\u00a0took me into writing, political science, ethics, conflict\u00a0resolution\u00a0and international affairs.<\/span>\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

The dance program\u00a0also\u00a0went beyond preparing dancers for the stage\u00a0\u2014\u00a0deep into history, pedagogy, and somatic psychology.\u00a0I explored\u00a0how\u00a0Dance\/Movement Therapy (DMT) could help adolescents in underserved communities heal from trauma\u00a0through\u00a0self-expression\u00a0and\u00a0social skills. For my senior thesis,\u00a0I developed\u00a0a program\u00a0around\u00a0that.\u00a0<\/span>\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

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What transferable skills from performing arts training proved most valuable as you moved into executive leadership?<\/span><\/b>\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

Discipline is the first practice that comes to mind. Becoming a proficient dancer\u00a0doesn\u2019t\u00a0happen overnight\u2014it takes years of showing up on time, refining your craft. That practice threads itself into your professional life.\u00a0Dancers\u00a0also\u00a0live in front of a mirror:\u00a0You\u2019re\u00a0constantly forced to self<\/span>\u2011<\/span>evaluate and correct.\u00a0\u00a0In leadership, I always start with self-questioning and accountability.<\/span>\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

There\u2019s\u00a0also the social dimension. Effective leaders need\u00a0very strong\u00a0emotional and social intelligence, and\u00a0the performing arts\u00a0teaches\u00a0you to adapt, collaborate, and\u00a0wear many different hats\u00a0\u2014\u00a0communicating both physically and verbally. That\u00a0translates\u00a0directly into\u00a0balancing the creative and operational components of leading a complex, global\u00a0entertainment operation.<\/span>\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

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You moved from onboard dancer to shoreside leadership quickly. What were the pivotal moments or mentors who accelerated that transition?<\/span><\/b>\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

A\u00a0friend\u00a0who had\u00a0danced for Holland America\u00a0told me it was\u00a0a\u00a0great opportunity\u00a0to travel, meet interesting people, and figure out what\u00a0I\u00a0wanted\u00a0to do next. He was right. Ship life\u00a0is\u00a0incredibly\u00a0rewarding sociological experience\u00a0\u2014\u00a0you\u2019re\u00a0forming friendships and meeting people from all\u00a0walks\u00a0of\u00a0life\u00a0and cultures amidst the humbling power of the ocean and visiting\u00a0new places.<\/span>\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

In 2017, I\u00a0was the dance captain aboard\u00a0Eurodam\u00a0when\u00a0Bill Prince,\u00a0then\u00a0VP of Entertainment, came onboard for a town hall. I asked a few questions and\u00a0offered some\u00a0practical\u00a0ideas around\u00a0guest experience\u00a0and\u00a0performer\u00a0retention. That\u00a0piqued his interest, and he asked for a follow-up meeting. We stayed connected, and eventually\u00a0he\u00a0encouraged me to\u00a0apply for\u00a0a\u00a0Production Manager\u00a0role.\u00a0I got\u00a0the\u00a0job.<\/span>\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

A few months later, I\u00a0joined the\u00a0core production team for our partnership cruises with Oprah Winfrey and\u00a0<\/span>O, The Oprah Magazine,<\/span><\/i>\u00a0which gave me more visibility.\u00a0By the end of 2018, I was offered a\u00a0shoreside role\u00a0in Seattle as Manager of Entertainment Operations.\u00a0Seven years later,\u00a0here I am.<\/span>\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

Holland America Line has hired multiple Chapman alumni. What do you see in Chapman\u00a0grads\u00a0that\u00a0fits\u00a0shipboard entertainment and shipboard\u00a0life?<\/span><\/b>\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

It was important to me to make sure the opportunity was visible to graduating students and fellow alumni. Many performing artists\u00a0aren’t\u00a0even aware of the different tracks within the entertainment business. So,\u00a0I\u2019d\u00a0post job listings\u00a0in the alumni network\u00a0just so people could\u00a0see:\u00a0here\u2019s\u00a0a dancer doing something different, and this path exists.<\/span>\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

What I see in Chapman\u00a0grads\u00a0goes back to my own experience.\u00a0The education\u00a0is rigorous. Even as a dance major, you\u00a0had\u00a0to study\u00a0\u2014\u00a0extensive research, writing, and critical\u00a0thinking.\u00a0There\u2019s\u00a0a degree of intellectual curiosity that comes from those who\u00a0succeed\u00a0in that environment.\u00a0I also know who I was at 18 and who I was at 22 when I came out of Chapman. That growth is not lost\u00a0on\u00a0me.<\/span>\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

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What advice do you have for performers who are curious about careers beyond the stage?<\/span><\/b>\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

Don\u2019t\u00a0focus on a specific job title or company. Focus on\u00a0identifying\u00a0your strengths\u00a0\u2014the\u00a0things you find important, the things that drive you.\u00a0Understanding what you value most and looking for opportunities that\u00a0align\u00a0with those\u00a0values gives you\u00a0the best chance of success.\u00a0<\/span>\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

And\u00a0don\u2019t\u00a0plan too far out \u2014 three years is\u00a0plenty.\u00a0Your track may not be linear,\u00a0and\u00a0that\u2019s\u00a0OK. If\u00a0you’re\u00a0determined\u00a0to stretch your performance career as long as possible, go for it.\u00a0But if\u00a0it’s not serving you\u00a0the way you imagined,\u00a0know that\u00a0a\u00a0well-rounded Chapman education will prove its worth over and over again\u00a0and open far more doors than the stage alone.<\/span>\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

Quick Hits \/ Rapid Fire<\/span><\/b>\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

Three must<\/span><\/i>\u2011<\/span><\/i>go Chapman spots:\u00a0<\/span><\/i>Rutabegorz,\u00a0Mama\u00a0D\u2019s\u00a0in Newport Beach, and\u00a0the Attallah Piazza\u00a0with\u00a0a good book.<\/span>\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

Leadership habit borrowed from your dancer days:<\/span><\/i>\u00a0Self<\/span>\u2011<\/span>evaluation and continuous learning\u00a0\u2014\u00a0I always go inward first.<\/span>\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

Favorite role\u00a0you\u2019ve\u00a0ever danced:<\/span><\/i>\u00a0\u201cOne\u201d from\u00a0<\/span>A Chorus Line<\/span><\/i>, with original choreography by Baayork Lee from the original cast.\u00a0The\u00a0most fun and fulfilling closing number I ever performed night\u00a0after\u00a0night.<\/span>\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

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Photos courtesy of Joe Chantry.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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